
MIND + BODY
the Strenuous Life with
Ed Roberson

Ed Roberson, host of the Mountain and Prairie podcast and Conservation Director at the Palmer Land Conservancy, shares his journey through both his personal and professional life. We weave through Ed’s career in real estate that led him into conservation work in the West and his personal evolution and exploration in everything from ultramarathons to meditation. Ed is as inspiring as he is dynamic, as dedicated a father as he is a storyteller, and as voracious a reader as he is a conservationist.
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Welcome to Mind, Body, and Soil. Join me, Kate Kavanaugh, a farmer, entrepreneur, and holistic nutritionist, as I get curious about human nature, health, and consciousness as viewed through the lens of nature. I’m digging into deep and raw conversations with truly impactful guests that are laying the ground work for themselves and many generations to come. We dive into topics around farming, biohacking, regenerative agriculture, spirituality, nutrition, and beyond. Get curious and get ready with new episodes every Tuesday!
James Connolly is a film producer (most recently – Sacred Cow), co-host of the Sustainable Dish podcast, avid reader, and passionate about food. It’s hard to encapsulate this conversation in a description – we cover a lot of ground. At its core, it’s the broad strokes of just how we ended up in our current paradigm. We start about 150 years ago, where we follow threads of the move from rural to urban environments and how the idea of ‘cleanliness’ begins to take hold. We cover the Great Grain Robbery and the formation of commodities that would change the agricultural world and how technology has played a role in these early formation of food systems and how it’s playing a role now, leading into a conversation of techno-utopias. James covers school systems, as someone who has run a non-profit for schools in New York, and how we’re taught what to think, not how to think and the compulsory education experiment. We also dive into the history of medicalizing the human experience using some personal anecdotes around grief to explore the world of psychiatric medication and beyond. All of this leads into a discussion of the techno-utopia that we’re often being marketed and the shape of the current food system. It’s a big, rolling conversation filled with all the book recommendations you need to keep it going.
We also talk about:
- Butchery through the lens of two butchers
- The vilification of meat
- Effective Altruism
- & so much more (seriously, so much more)
Timestamps:
09:30: The Sanitization of Humanity
18:54: The Poison Squad
33:03: The Great Grain Robbery + Commodities
44:24: Techno-Utopias The Genesis of the Idea that Technology is the Answer
55:01: Tunnel Vision in Technology, Carbon, and Beyond
1:02:00: Food in Schools and Compulsory Education
1:11:00: Medicalization of Human Experience
1:51:00: Effective Altruism
2:11:00: Butchery
2:25:00: More Techno-Utopias
Find James:
Twitter: @jamescophoto
Instagram: @primatekitchen
Podcast: Sustainable Dish
Reading/Watching List
The Invention of Capitalism by Michael Perelman
The Poison Squad by Deborah Blum
Mister Jones (film)
Dumbing Us Down: the Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling by John Taylor Gatto
Three Identical Strangers (film)
Related Mind, Body, and Soil Episodes:
Dr. Anthony Gustin (for more on decentralizing food systems)
Will Reusch (on the education system and teaching kids how to think)
Brett Ender (mentioned throughout the podcast)
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