MIND, BODY, & SOIL
How the Stimulus of Death Shapes Our Responses to Life
with Scott Carney
Scott Carney’s book ‘the Wedge’ changed my life a little bit, and it has led me down a rabbit hole into his work over the years. From the Enlightenment Trap, to What Doesn’t Kill Us, and into some of his interviews around consciousness. In this episode, we dive deep into death and how our biological programming to fear it can be both a hindrance and a reason to challenge ourselves. We talk about how the wellness industry wants to sell you living forever, and that might not be such a new idea. Ultimately, this is a conversation around our actions and the way we can place what Scott calls “the wedge” between stimulus and response at an individual level, and maybe even at a societal level. It’s also about getting out of our own perspective and imagining what it might be like to be a cat, or the motivations of a cell as much as it’s about learning to change our perspectives.
Find Scott:
Instagram: @scottcarney
YouTube
I thoroughly recommend Scott’s Audiobooks!
The Vortex
The Wedge
The Enlightement Trap
What Doesn’t Kill Us
Other Great Interviews with Scott:
Scott Carney on Third Eye Drops
Timestamps:
00:14:22: I finally stop talking and start the episode
00:17:14: How fear of death shapes our biology
00:25:26: the wellness industry wants to sell you living forever
00:28:32: Ripple effects of our actions
00:39:48: Self and other – being shaped by our environments and microbiome
00:48:15: ‘Umwelt’ and empathy
00:51:26: Outsourcing our natural relationships to technology
00:54:24: From a cell’s perspective
01:02:00: ‘the Wedge’ at a societal level
01:17:42: Changing our minds
01:24:31: Being a generalist
Books Mentioned:
The Sandman (Book 1) by Neil Gaiman
Story of the Human Body by Daniel E Lieberman
Range by David Epstein
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Welcome to Mind, Body, and Soil. Join me, Kate Kavanaugh, a farmer, entrepreneur, and holistic nutritionist, as I get curious about human nature, health, and consciousness as viewed through the lens of nature. At its heart, this podcast is about finding the threads of what it means to be humans woven into this earth. I’m digging into deep and raw conversations with truly impactful guests that are laying the ground work for themselves and many generations to come. We dive into topics around farming, grief, biohacking, regenerative agriculture, spirituality, nutrition, and beyond. Get curious and get ready with new episodes every Tuesday!
Scott Carney makes his second appearance on the podcast to talk about his new book Dream: the Art and Science of Slumber. It’s a deliciously short book that reframes sleep. It’s a little bit science and a little bit art and it manages to quote Jurassic Park once, so it’s a big win. In this episode, Scott and I chase some rabbits around ideas related to sleep. Have we couched sleep in the language of economic productivity and forgotten what it is to dream? Does our sleep distill our life into emotions and do those exist to form the basis of our memories and who we are in waking life? What does the spectrum between sleep and wake say about our consciousness? We also touch in on Scott’s dreams of anacondas and what a rumen does anyway. This is a podcast that gives you, amongst many things, permission to dream.
Find Scott:
Scott’s Most Recent Book: Dream: the Art and Science of Slumber
Scott’s Instagram: @sgcarney
Previous MBS Episode with Scott
Books Mentioned:
the Experience Machine by Andy Clark
Einstein’s Dreams by Alan Lightman
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