MIND, BODY, & SOIL
The Complexity of Simplicity
with Jill Winger
This is a salty conversation and it’s also the kind of conversation that cracks you wide open. I sit down with Jill Winger – not to discuss her incredible work with Old-Fashioned on Purpose, her courses, her planner, or her book which are all amazing – but to talk about her life philosophies, our shared hot takes, and to lean into our complexity as humans. We explore the complexities of modern communication, the importance of intentional living, and the challenges of building community in a polarized society. We talk about being reflexive contrarians and sometimes needing to go to an extreme to bounce back to some nuance. We discuss the value of discomfort in personal growth as much as we talk about when and how to choose ease, the balance between generalism and specialization, and the necessity of real human connection in an increasingly digital world. We explore choosing when we need to choose discomfort (often!) but also when we need to choose ease. All around, about holding the tension between modern and old-fashioned ways of living, and just holding the tension between so many paradoxical qualities of ourselves and our lives.
Find Jill:
Instagram: @jill.winger
2025 Old Fashioned On Purpose Planner
Old-Fashioned on Purpose: Cultivating a Slower, More Joyful Life
Resources Mentioned:
Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age by Sherry Turkle
Molecule of More by Daniel Lieberman, MD and Michael E. Long
10x is Easier Than 2x by Dan Sullivan
Sponsored By:
- Mine to Table Salt from Utah, Redmond Real Salt is packed full of 60+ Trace Minerals and is a staple in my kitchen. Find their salt, Re-Lyte Hydration Powder, and so much more here. Use code MINDBODYSOIL_15 for 15% off!
- redmond.life
- Hand grown Sundries Farm Garlic is certified disease-free and grown in the volcanic soils of Idaho. With a range of soft and hard-neck varietals the unmatched flavor and big cloves are perfect for both your seed and culinary needs. Pre-order now for shipping in September.
- sundriesfarm.com
- Barefoot, zero-drop, gorgeous running shoes, sandals, and hiking boots that are grounded. Meaning you can reap all the benefits of the electron flow from earth to your body while you’re getting in your steps. Use the code ‘Kate10’ for 10% off.
Support the Podcast:
Connect with Kate:
Instagram: @kate_kavanaugh
Current Discounts for MBS listeners:
- 10% off Home of Wool using code KATEKAVANAUGH
- KateK20 for 20% off Herbal Face Food
Mind, Body, and Soil
Welcome to Mind, Body, and Soil. Join me, Kate Kavanaugh, a farmer, entrepreneur, and holistic nutritionist, as I get curious about human nature, health, and consciousness as viewed through the lens of nature. At its heart, this podcast is about finding the threads of what it means to be humans woven into this earth. I’m digging into deep and raw conversations with truly impactful guests that are laying the ground work for themselves and many generations to come. We dive into topics around farming, grief, biohacking, regenerative agriculture, spirituality, nutrition, and beyond. Get curious and get ready with new episodes every Tuesday!
The Complexity of Simplicity with Jill Winger
This is a salty conversation and it’s also the kind of conversation that cracks you wide open. I sit down with Jill Winger – not to discuss her incredible work with Old-Fashioned on Purpose, her courses, her planner, or her book which are all amazing – but to talk about her life philosophies, our shared hot takes, and to lean into our complexity as humans. We explore the complexities of modern communication, the importance of intentional living, and the challenges of building community in a polarized society. We talk about being reflexive contrarians and sometimes needing to go to an extreme to bounce back to some nuance. We discuss the value of discomfort in personal growth as much as we talk about when and how to choose ease, the balance between generalism and specialization, and the necessity of real human connection in an increasingly digital world. We explore choosing when we need to choose discomfort (often!) but also when we need to choose ease. All around, about holding the tension between modern and old-fashioned ways of living, and just holding the tension between so many paradoxical qualities of ourselves and our lives.
Find Jill:
Instagram: @jill.winger
2025 Old Fashioned On Purpose Planner
Old-Fashioned on Purpose: Cultivating a Slower, More Joyful Life
Resources Mentioned:
Reclaiming Conversation: The Power of Talk in a Digital Age by Sherry Turkle
Molecule of More by Daniel Lieberman, MD and Michael E. Long
10x is Easier Than 2x by Dan Sullivan
Sponsored By:
- Mine to Table Salt from Utah, Redmond Real Salt is packed full of 60+ Trace Minerals and is a staple in my kitchen. Find their salt, Re-Lyte Hydration Powder, and so much more here. Use code MINDBODYSOIL_15 for 15% off!
- redmond.life
- Hand grown Sundries Farm Garlic is certified disease-free and grown in the volcanic soils of Idaho. With a range of soft and hard-neck varietals the unmatched flavor and big cloves are perfect for both your seed and culinary needs. Pre-order now for shipping in September.
- sundriesfarm.com
- Barefoot, zero-drop, gorgeous running shoes, sandals, and hiking boots that are grounded. Meaning you can reap all the benefits of the electron flow from earth to your body while you’re getting in your steps. Use the code ‘Kate10’ for 10% off.
Support the Podcast:
Connect with Kate:
Instagram: @kate_kavanaugh
