MIND, BODY, & SOIL
Carbon: A Flow and Symphony of Life
with Paul Hawken

Episode 105: In this conversation, Kate sits down with author and entrepreneur Paul Hawken ti explore the multifaceted role of carbon in life and talk about his new book, ‘Carbon: the Book of Life’. It’s an episode challenging the conventional narrative that reduces carbon to an errant molecule within the atmosphere and connects it back to the molecule that flows through 99% of all substances on earth. Paul and Kate discuss the importance of recognizing the complexity and interconnectedness of life–encouraging a shift from reductionist thinking to a more holistic understanding of our relationship with the environment, advocating for transformative actions rooted in compassion and connection while recognizing humanity’s role. They also discuss the power of language, the potential of possibility, and some of the incredible innovations we’re embarking on. This is an episode for the curious!
Find Paul:Â
Carbon: the Book of Life by Paul Hawken
Regeneration by Paul Hawken
Drawdown by Paul Hawken
Blessed Unrest by Paul Hawken
Instagram: @paulhawken
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Resources Mentioned:
Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? by Frans de Waal
The Master and His Emissary by Iain McGilchristÂ
Related Episodes:
Episode 67 with Dan Egan on Phosphorous
Episode 87 with Ferris Jabr on Earth’s Interconnections
Episode 76 with Melanie Challenger on the Human Animal
Episode 58 with Fred Provenza on Embracing the Unknown and Awe
Episode 72 with Ben Goldfarb on Circular Economies
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Episode 105: In this conversation, Kate sits down with author and entrepreneur Paul Hawken ti explore the multifaceted role of carbon in life and talk about his new book, ‘Carbon: the Book of Life’. It’s an episode challenging the conventional narrative that reduces carbon to an errant molecule within the atmosphere and connects it back to the molecule that flows through 99% of all substances on earth. Paul and Kate discuss the importance of recognizing the complexity and interconnectedness of life–encouraging a shift from reductionist thinking to a more holistic understanding of our relationship with the environment, advocating for transformative actions rooted in compassion and connection while recognizing humanity’s role. They also discuss the power of language, the potential of possibility, and some of the incredible innovations we’re embarking on. This is an episode for the curious!
Find Paul:
Carbon: the Book of Life by Paul Hawken
Instagram: @paulhawken
Resources Mentioned:
Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are? by Frans de Waal
The Master and His Emissary by Iain McGilchrist
Related Episodes:
Episode 67 with Dan Egan on Phosphorous
Episode 87 with Ferris Jabr on Earth’s Interconnections
Episode 76 with Melanie Challenger on the Human Animal
Episode 58 with Fred Provenza on Embracing the Unknown and Awe
Episode 72 with Ben Goldfarb on Circular Economies
Sponsored By:
- Mine to Table Salt from Utah, Redmond Real Salt is packed full of 60+ Trace Minerals and is a staple in my kitchen. Find their salt, Re-Lyte Hydration Powder, and so much more here. Use code MINDBODYSOIL_15 for 15% off!
- redmond.life
FIELD COMPANY CAST IRON
- USA made cast iron. Light, thin bottomed, and smooth – just like vintage cast iron. My go to for everything from small skillets to big dutch ovens.
- fieldcompany.com/kate_kavanaugh
- Barefoot, zero-drop, gorgeous running shoes, sandals, and hiking boots that are grounded. Meaning you can reap all the benefits of the electron flow from earth to your body while you’re getting in your steps. Use the code ‘Kate10’ for 10% off.
Support the Podcast:
Connect with Kate:
Instagram: @kate_kavanaugh
